Anthony Scaramucci talks Joe Kernen, 'Morning Joe,' Trump's threats against the press, and more

Anthony Scaramucci believes Donald Trump's threats of vengeance should be taken seriously — and he has made no secret of it.

I caught up with the Trump-ally-turned-critic this week for a media-focused conversation previewing the next four years.

In the interview, we touched on everything from the "Morning Joe" hosts’ Mar-a-Lago pilgrimage to his recent tense interview with CNBC's Joe Kernen to what Trump may do to hinder the M&A climate for media companies.

Below is the Q&A, edited for clarity.

You served as Trump's White House communications director for a blissful 11 days. What do you believe Trump's relationship will be like in his second term?

I think the definition of insanity is to repeat the same thing and expect a different outcome. Trump will have very rough and very difficult relationships with his staff and many people will depart, similar to last time. However, I can guarantee those people right now think everything is going to be just fine. That’s just not how it works with Trump.